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Re: “You black guys are racist!!”

The Facts — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:13:31 -0000

Okay, what happened in 1492 that took away African American's power to define? Nothing.

Now, lets see, over a fifth of the lynchings that happened in the state of Virginia were white people getting lynched, so don't try and claim that you were the only ones who had that happen. Sold blacks? Yes, white people did that, but who sold them to the white people in the first place? Other black people. White people didn't go raiding black villages, black tribes fought and captured slaves, then sold those slaves to white traders. Raped blacks? Yes...But black people commit over 50% of the rape crimes, and make up only 13% of the population.

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$natch — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:40:00 -0000

im a white male, but i do live with a black man. he is almost my brother. but people think im racist cuz i have yelld at many black men. but i have only yelld at them because thay thought they were better than every one else, also for yelly at my bro. for hanging out with little O' me. Cuz im white? why would they do that?

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monicaw — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:29:48 -0000

I think oppressed people can always oppress others in the same or a lower position, so I do believe black people can be racist.

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office space — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:29:12 -0000

Kinda agree with most comments.I think oppressed people can always oppress others in the same or a lower position, so I do believe black people can be racist. But what I believe is that black or white,irrespective of race, anyone can be racist to others and to their own race too.

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blackjack tournaments — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:39:56 -0000

I think that the black people can' be racist, one of the reason is that even in today's society there are numerous black people who are being targetted and exploited on account of racism. Due to their color.
Still if there are such incidents taking place where white people are critisized by the black ones, it can be taken as an exception.

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joyjoyfuljoyous — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:42:55 -0000

Well, I think you are just complaining about isolated incidents or discomfort that threatened your privilege. And, by the way, it's happened to me too. Racisim and classism are forms of prejudice that require power. Heavens yes, poor people, African Americans, and everybody can be prejudiced and have their prejudices. However, your complaint is not too different than the cries of reverse discrimination. Leaving alone that you can't discriminate backwards, the implied comment of both complaints is a right to or an implied deserving of the position. That is why I say that you are complaining based on perceived and perhaps actual threats to your privilege - in your case the privilege being education. I'm not saying that as a judgement - more so a call for how we as YBP sometimes look at other Blacks (or anyone for that matter) who are not professionals, didn't attend college, and etc. Taking this approach requires us to look at our motives, attitudes, and for those on a faith walk - our integrity in that area as well. Very brave of you to look at this and ask these quesitons.

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The Blackguy Executive — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:31:52 -0000

I do think that the Black community, especially those with collegiate and above pedigree can be classist and even racist. I am an a graduate from a small private liberal arts college that hold a higher status in the collegiate community and have felt this class divide. I have been called "bougie" and some of my mentors have called me a member of the "Black Elite. W.E.B. Du Bois said in his talented tenth arguement that, "the Negro race, like all races, is going to be saved by its exceptional men. The problem of education, then, among Negroes must first of all deal with the Talented Tenth; it is the problem of developing the Best of this race that they may guide the Mass away from the contamination and death of the Worst, in their own and other races." This point of view clearly depicts a classist divide. Many of the Historically Black Colleges and Universities are creating a classist ideology for many of it graduates.

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axelotl — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 08:29:07 -0000

You need to learn why your own mind thinks in this way about racism - the answer lies in the fact that you, as so many others worldwide, have been conditioned by 'Frankfurt School' politically-correct thinking dogma which was introduced early in the 20th century to Europe and after WW2 to the USA.

You have uncritically and probably unwittingly adopted such a way of thinking, and are clearly beginning to realise that, whilst racism exists of course, it is in fact practiced by both black and white and that not every incident of what appears to you as a black person as racism, is in fact as a result of your skin colour.

See this documentray video on ythe Origin of Political Correctness:

http://swindonnationalists.blogspot.com/2008/02...

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diana — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:51:55 -0000

EVERYONE CAN BE PREJUDICE, BUT THE RACIST ARE THE ONES WITH THE POWER TO EFFECT NEGATIVE CHANGE AGAINST ANOTHER RACE. The European race is the ultimate racist. They conquer all that they befriend. The native Americans are extinct due to the white man,The buffalo are almost non-existent due to the white man's greed, The African American's true identities were snatched from them by the white man, If they research the family tree it leads to a plantation...to white names, The Continent of Europe did not exist until the white man conquered that part of Asia and called it home, Africa use to be named Ethiopia until a white man named it after himself(Africa),South Africa's good land was stolen and the natives were lead to the swamps by the white man during Apartheid. Now Oprah opens a school for poor blacks, because the good white schools in Africa are Univiting to the darker complexed, and the white man complain about why his white child can't get in Oprah's school. The Gold and diamond minds were taken by the white man after they tricked the native American Indians into revealing where they got gold from(referring to the gold that was brought to America by the Ethiopians for trade with the Indians long before Christopher(lying) Columbus so called discovered America. The Haitians can't even enter America because they did not allow the white man to conquer their land as they had every country they visited, and the Haitians are being punished to this very day. America is terrified of the pure mind set of the Haitians because That was one culture they did not have a chance to create an inferiority complex in as they have every other place they have visited. People ask what make other races so different because they fight amongst themselves and cause the same devastation. That's just it, They FIGHT AMONGST THEMSELVES and don't pan out to conquer other races, but the white man goes outside himself to conquer and still.Today Bush continued the trail of his ancestors, and conquered for greed of oil, and he used the people of his country to do his dirty deeds. He went against all safe guards set up to prevent dictatorship (The UNITED NATION, CONGRESS, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THE CIA, ETC) and became that in which he claimed to want to destroy (A DICTATOR) He destroyed a country on the tail of a lie, but he accomplished his goal,and got the oil. He made his ancestors proud "That's right Bushy boy, if they don't hand it over go and take it by all means necessary". If your read the bible God talks about Satan's children will rule the world for 6.000 years and at the end of that time he shall allow the meek to inherit the earth once again...I wonder who he was referring to, you do the math.

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K.Nicole — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:21:51 -0000

In my own opinion African Americans cannot be racist. I am a young African American college woman (real HU, Howard) who has seen white racism and felt it. As I see it and many scholars I learn from racism correlates with power. Any body can be prejudice but those who hold power can be racist. Since, whites have taken African Americans power to define back in 1492 we cannot be racist. Personally speaking everybody is prejudice. Even within myself i find myself being prejudice. Whites lynched us, refused us service, sold us, raped us, made us inferior, and brought on many pschological problems that still exist. So I could go on for days but yeah blacks cannot be racist.

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Jelly — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:04:00 -0000

I this you missed it Mes. Being poor and uneducated wouldn't make rednecks racist. Having the power to discriminate against blacks would make them racist. The question is could they be considered classist if they discriminated against the rich.

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Mes Deux Cents — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:53:46 -0000

And to think for the last 500 years 'rednecks' thought that they were racists. Someone ought to tell them that because they are poor and uneducated, therefore having no power, that they are not racists.

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David McQueen — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:28:14 -0000

If you would like to know I would be more than willing to furnish you with it. Failing that just read my blog. Who knows. You might learn something.

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Jo — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:04:04 -0000

And you, mine.

God knows what you're teaching given the obvious questions you're asking here.

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David McQueen — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:41:45 -0000

You have obviously missed my point.
For the record I lecture on history across the diaspora so don't get it twisted.

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Jo — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:30:43 -0000

Once again whites do not have to be in the majority to oppress. Read your history.

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David McQueen — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:02:18 -0000

or any other country....

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David McQueen — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:01:03 -0000

I posed the question about African countries where blacks are the dominant race. I could say the same of the Caribbean where my family are from. In these societies racism does exist whether between blacks, Arabics, white or Asian. To say that the white race is the ultimate supressor is a bit small minded and is probably more local but then of course wikipedia is but one voice (albeit random) to the definition of racism.

Both here in the UK and of course in the US blacks represent 4% and 16% respectively of the countries therefore we would see whites as the oppressor because they are the dominant race and because of the more recent histories of Jim Crow, colonisations, etc. Would we say the same if we were in the Middle East, or South East Asia for example? I doubt it, hence my comment about whether it is an American position.

Racism is simply a prejudicial thought, belief or word about a race collectively. Perpetuated mainly by the dominant culture of that country, whether it is in the US, Sudan, Japan or Australia.

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Will — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:40:45 -0000

it's not an American thing. It's philosophical more than anything else. Go to the wikipedia page about racism and read the sociological definitions on racism.

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David McQueen — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:29:50 -0000

"I meant blacks can not be racist against whites - the ultimate oppressors".

How so? Or is this just an American thing?

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Jo — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:22:39 -0000

I meant blacks can not be racist against whites - the ultimate oppressors. I have to analyze the Idi Amin situation more, but my first reaction is to say I'm not sure.

Again, numbers have nothing to do with who cna and can not be racist.

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David McQueen — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:55:47 -0000

"Blacks cannot be racist because actions have little impact on the white race as a whole?"

I am not sure I follow this line of thinking.

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David McQueen — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:54:32 -0000

Jo, I was making the point that often racism is seen within the context of the local country, rather than as a whole. In the US and UK blacks feel the force of racism within a socio-economic context more because we are a minority.

Sometime it is about numbers as well as force. Apartheid of course stands as an example to buck that trend but then was Idi Amin's behaviour not racist when he expelled Asians from Uganda? What of the conflict in Sudan between the more Arabic northerners in comparison to the Southerners? And what of Mugabe in Zimbabwe?

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The Urban Scientist — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:23:53 -0000

Yep! But I'd offer an alternative. ALL people are capable of being ELITIST! Discrimination or racist, sexist, classist or any kind of-ist is about exercisng power -however temporay or limited related to particular circumstance.

So, yes. Sometimes better educated or financially capable people are discriminated against by less priviledged people. In some circumstances such people may have power over a situation and make discriminatory decisions - excluding you and favoring someone more like them.

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JD — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:34:19 -0000

prejuidical feelings are something that can be used without having a negative impact on one's race.Blacks cannot be racist because actions have little impact on the white race as a whole.