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Lmao! — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:57:24 -0000

stop making everything about race! it's a GAME! get over it omg. did you see hispanic people getting pissed off bc the enemies in re4 were hispanic? the fact that black people are even complaining about this just supports the stereotype and comfirms that there are many of them who really do make everything about race! stop whining and GET A LIFE - IT'S A GAME!!! thanks! ( :

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SEO Updates — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:48:04 -0000

I think its very! sad the way people are finding this game racist.i no its a white guy shooting black people but capcom are not! and i repeat not! trying to mke the game racist.i mean if it was a black guy shooting white people no one would care because its only! a bloody game!!!
so could everyone stop! exadurating!!

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SynchPedro86 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:41:24 -0000

For goodness sake, it is only a game. Up until now, Resident Evil games have always been violent. There was a black guy in Resident Evil 2 who you had to kill. No one cried racist then. This is just immensely stupid.

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Bonny — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:39:57 -0000

IN FORBIDDEN SIREN YOU HAVE TO KILL ASIANS AND RESIDENT EVIL IS RACISM? Sorry but you guys are very very stupid morons!!!!!!!
By the way, there is a black Zombie in an other RE game, but no one cared about, why in RE 5? Thats idiotic!

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Joe — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:39:47 -0000

I being a Zombie find all Resident Evil games racist

Oh and "Braaaaaaaains"

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taffysaur — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:22:05 -0000

"is no one getting hurt by making a game about a asian kid who can only liberate his soul by shooting up a college campus and getting a body count above 30?"

By your logic, the only people who should be offended by this game are zombies.
I also find it offensive that you stereotype the entire "video game demographic". I really do, I'm not just making a point.

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Kathryn — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:00:55 -0000

Well, I go looking for a fun list of 'things i learned from resident evil', because I'm bored, and I find another debate about the supposed racism in the upcoming Resident Evil 5 game.

I'm not going to read all of the comments, I'm just going to point out something about your blog that bothered me, and then head back to Google:

The picture under your fist paragraph is possibly the most misleading thing I have seen recently. Undoubtedly, anyone who wants to see racism will take that image out of context and see a whole mess of it. Why? Glad I get to explain. I'm going to go through this as if I have not seen the trailer, and just make some observations.

The focus of the image is a man of dark skin tones, who looks to be afraid of something. Behind him, one can see a shadow that could be his shadow, or could be the shadow of someone else.

Let's take the 'Resident Evil 5 is racist' route first. The game's main protagonist is an American male, of light-toned skin. By the image, one could go so far as to assume that this dark-skinned made being shown was looking up at the white man in fear, and the shadow belonged to the white man, who was about to kill him (probably in some spectacularly bloody way, since gamers seem to enjoy that).

Oh, but wait, there's no CONTEXT in that one! Let's look at the trailer leading up to this image.

Okay, we see a village with dark-skinned persons... hmm, they seem to be rather normal, just living life as they do... and there's a white man walking through the village, alright...

Blah blah blah, oh, hey, tense moment! This white man (Chris Redfield) opens a door, and the camera zooms in on two dark-skinned men seeming to be attacking a third. Yep, that's really racist, isn't it?

Oh, but here's what I was looking for! As Chris watches, something seems to happen to this dark-skinned man that had been attacked by two of his fellow villagers. He gives the camera a look of fear, and his eyes start bleeding.

So then this bleeding-from-the-eyes fellow attacks Chris Redfield.

Scene cut, a group of villagers attacking Chris, and him defending himself. Several times over.

Is the game graphic and violent? Yes. Does the game feature a light-skinned male shooting dark-skinned people (male and female)? Yes. Is the game racist? Most likely, no.

I also read the original blog that got this started (by that Kym Platt person), and found her ignorance to be astounding, but other people have already addressed that. My advice would be that if it doesn't appeal to your tastes to defend yourself from zombies--who happen to be dark skinned--don't buy the game. And, if you fear that even having images of it out there will somehow harm you, lock yourself in a padded room with no outside communication except a nice nurse who brings you meals, but never speaks to you.

Or, more realistically, learn to live with it.

Then again, what do I know? I'm just a twenty-something American female, light-skinned (except this great tan I'm working on), who enjoys playing video games sometimes.

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music — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:50:36 -0000

very interesting.
i'm adding in RSS Reader

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I grow so tired of this — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:11:42 -0000

It's so difficult for me to find the words to describe the levels of frustration and confusion that i experience upon reading some of these posts. The racism in Resident Evil 5 i believe is one of the most foolish controversies I've come across in a good while. There is no issue of race in this game. The color of the people, I'm sorry, zombies in the game serves only to make the setting more believable. The game has always talked of moving the setting to Europe and therefor it is a logical progression to possibly move to an African based country. to call a game racist just because it happens to depict black people being killed is madness. there have been no issues of race ever raised before about any of the previous games, despite Hispanics being killed in RE 4. To put the word racism in this game seems to imply that you think anything against black people is automatically racist and that there is no other possible explanation. i understand that yes, African people are being killed by a white man in this game. however if you cannot see past the fact that it is merely a game and that before now its always been the killing of whites in the franchise, then you yourself are blind to see nothing but racism in the world. and by racism, from the way it seems to be put by you, is only a big deal when it occurs to Africans. It's a game. nothing more. there are no hidden agenda's unless you create them.
Also, i am incredibly outraged myself at this utter ignorance that you yourself are using to imply that the gaming community is nothing more than a bunch of racist white children who are just praying to kill the world. this statement idea in itself is so insane to me that i was quite taken aback when i saw it. Please, Black looks, or whoever else wants to take on me as a gaming representative, respond. I have no intention of attacking you. I simply wish to try and better understand your point and to maybe try and help you better understand mine.

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RESIDENT EVIL 5 — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:11:54 -0000

i think its VERY! sad the way people are finding this game racist.i no its a white guy shooting black people but capcom are NOT! and i repeat NOT! trying to mke the game racist.i mean if it was a black guy shooting white people no one would care because its ONLY! a bloody game!!!
so could everyone STOP! exadurating!!!

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Idetrorce — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:25:05 -0000

very interesting, but I don't agree with you
Idetrorce

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Tom Smith — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:05:15 -0000

The Resident Evil series has never had any racism in it before, and I doubt that the makers had intended for the new game to be any different. They just wanted a new location to freshen up the series and (being Japanese) didn't really consider what they were doing.

As a fan of Resident Evil, I ask you to please not base your views of the entire fanbase based on the negative comments left by people in the blogs. I can assure you Resident Evil is not a racist game, and neither are most of the people who play it.

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Chris — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:21:15 -0000

Pierce, but does that mean a game such as this is to be automatically deemed racist? The way Kim Platt was describing it was as if it was part of some huge plot by white corporate America to condition the young white generation to hate black people, as if only white teenagers play video games. Pure ignorance on her part.

Kim can whine and sulk all she wants about how people can't take criticism, yet she is totally oblivious to the harm her uninformed opinion can cause. You can criticize anything anyway you want, however, if you're going make such a bold statement, especially when it comes to dropping race card, you better well have good reason to. She didn't. She made all sorts of false assumptions and inaccurate claims. That's irresponsible and immoral.

And yes, we live in a racist society, but I truly hope you don't believe that racism is only outbound from white people. Racism exists just as much in the black community just like it does in others.

I think those who are truly neutral towars race are the ones who didn't see any race issue when they watched this trailer. They saw it for what it was, a zombie game that takes place in Africa. The ones who look at it and think "oh there's white America attacking black people again" are the ones who have race issues.

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Pierce — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:42:36 -0000

Good points. RE:1-4 used white zombies and nobody got pissed off. The difference with these Black Zombies is simple-we live in a racist society, where there is still an unspoken, un-dealt with history called the Black Holocaust, that makes people uncomfortable with the idea of Black genocide.

Think of it this way: if there were a way to make the Zombies look Jewish, perhaps through clothing, facial features, language and setting- .. and let's call "Chris" - "Christof", make him blonde haired, blue-eyed, 6'2 with a machine gun-the American Jewish Congress would throw a fit. And rightfully so.

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Chris — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:30:34 -0000

I won't make any excuses for the immature responses seen on the original blog. At the same time, no one should be making excuses for Kim Platt's own racism.

She clearly did no research before she spat out her unfounded opinion. She automatically assumed that white america was developing this game, yet it's being made by a japanese company. She also failed to take into the account the other 4 installments of the game, which mainly consisted of white zombies, part 4 taking place in Spain with spanish zombies.

The N word is not at term people should be using loosely. But, loosely throwing out the word racist is just as bad.

I can see how this game may be interpreted as racist, and I'm not denying that media can be quite racist. But I think in this case it's a matter of if that's what you are looking for, you will find it. To your average Resident Evil fan, this is simply a new installment in a new setting, which happens to be in Africa. It is as innocent as that.

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Low Frost — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:01:38 -0000

@ Funky J
To finish, we do not take up the mantle of someone else's defence because if you cannot fight your own battle's, than you are doomed to fall to another. Teach a man to fish and all. The only games that feature German people in priciple are World War 2 games, between the Allies and Axis. Muslims and Arabs in general have long been fighting the "terrorist " stereotype for years. And I have seen few games on the worldwide plate that cast cowards as Frenchman. If you want to know why the entire African community of thew world has not jumped on this bandwagon, see my above posts. You have confirmed yourself to be a troll or just another arrogant jackass, so I have taken a moment to point that out.
@ Asmo: Thus you have cleaved to the root of my idea. The people who made this game are not racist, per se, but ignorant, simply following the mass idea of what these people are like. That i where the racist stereotype come in to play. Like a said before, Japan is exceptionally disconnected from the rest of the world, with the majority of their ideas about other people coming from the media and tales from travelers colored with their ownprejudices. A blog I frequent tell the trials of a black english teacher in Japan. It is almost unbelievably what he encounters and knowing that, makes the products you see coming from Japan more understandable. That and for a while, Kraft (or Colgate, forgot which) had a brand of toothpaste out called "Darky Toothpaste". The mascot was a man in blackface dancing to Campton Races. Google it. My point is this massively offensive idea was entirely palatable and even popular in Japan. Just for an idea.
@Xantar
I understand where you are coming from. I wouldn't want to pains of my past brought to the light for mere entertainment. However, 24 is pretty blatant with it's stark realism. That scene was there because it actually happens, just like in Band of Brothers, they encounter a concentration camp replete with the emanciated, near death occupants. The differnce is that Resident Evil is not a window in to the ugliness of todays world, or a recounting of past events. It and its entire premise is absolute fiction that has real life elements thrown in on a whim. I still remember my friends playing RE 4 and saying "Yay, I'm killing spics!" (not around me, but you know, you hear things. Damn ears) despte the fact that the makers of the game went on record and said the game takes place in Europe. Spaniards =/= Hispanics.

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Low Frost — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:39:30 -0000

@Hannah
Hmm, you asked a good question. I'll do my best to give you an answer.
Not especially, but it depends on background and upbringing. There is an ocean of general distrust and suspicion between tthe black and white peoples in America that is exacerbated by the media and ingrained teaching. Racism is not really practiced openly, with laws, more through tradition and and process. Racism in America is tough to point out to others who do not live in it because it is not as easily seen as Jim Crow laws of the southern U.S. or aparthied in South Africa. It is the thought, the feeling, the nigh subconcious belief that affects you without even your realizing it. That if a tall, black male is walking down the same street at night as you are, you will watch him closely, prepared for some encounter that your mind has created. You may give him a wide berth, or do your best to not look him in the eye. I know. It happens to me alot. Hell, I've done it myself to my peers, then admonished myself afterwards for my foolishness. But it happened, the fear, a dread without source from deep within.
That is the racism that exist in America. It exists in schools as well. A case point is that the European Renaissance was jump started by Moorish Spain, as the knowledge brought by the African Muslims trickled in to the rest of Europe and crystalized in Italy. Moorish Spain was also the place where Cristopher Columbus gained the idea of a round world, as the teachings of Islam allude to the world being spherical in shape. This is not taught in schools, that one of the greatest evolutions in European civilization had it's start with African Muslims. That the great empires that existed in Africa, South America, and Asia are mere footnotes compared to the great amount of time spent with European history that only accounts for a portion of America's populace. And moreso, the neighborhood you live in shapes perception. I have lived in entirely black and Hispanic neighborhoods and the perception of whites is grossly different than the more.... culturaly balanced places I have lived. Especially with elders, whom the memories of the gross injustice inflicted upon them by racist, mysoginistic laws burn strong, the distrust and almost outright contempt of Caucasion people in general is great. There is nothing to stymie it, to show that all people are different and what is true for one is not for all. Just like your view of blacks and other so-called "minorities" must be based on what you see on the news, hear in music, read in the paper, and learn from family and friends. Your question alone gives credence to that fact. I see and experience the stereotypes of black men everyday, sometimes it's open, sometimes I need to root out the subtleties. Not just with whites, but with
EVERYONE, black, red, and yellow. The cause to root out racism is not just about white people, it is about ourselves, about changing the image that is self destructive and negative. The entire "thug" mentality is a good example. Just as the mafioso is a misplaced stereotype of Italians, so are thugs a exemplification of the majority of things wrong with the black community. That by rooting out racism where ever we see it, we shall root it out from ourselves, our hearts and minds, to carry forward to the future with hope for all of us. That I will not be just another "nigger", another black, but a human being first and last. That people still do not feel this way is reason enough to continue to look and root out the stain on our conciousness. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance is an analogy to this pursuit of racist ideology in todays world, because the ones who benefit from the end of ceaseless watching are those who hold the idea od racial superiority closest. Sometimes there are missteps. I believe this is one of them. That the charge of racism is not something to be carelessly thrown about, as it was here, just as a charge of rape should not be used without care and forethought. I hope I have at least clued you in to the situation as it stands with my long-winded answer.
@ Perry: I agree with you here.
@ Funky J: Because blacks in America have the most political and economic power of all African peoples in the world. That, yes, we do care about each other and work for the greater good of all. That simply because the voices of some are squashed or perhaps they don't know what is going on in the wide world does not mean they will be abandoned or discarded as though they have no value. The cause of one is the cause of many, and it is more important now than ever before. You do not have to be American to give a damn about your countrymen.

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Asmo — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:31:16 -0000

Thanks for a more balanced assessment of the situation Fredric. I enjoy reading thoughtful posts that aren't laden with pre or misconceptions and assumptions.

re: Kym's blogg, I found that she came off as an ignorant person who was "tar and feathering" something she did not understand based on what little she saw and understood about the subject...

Disturbing that the attitude is not too dissimilar to the oppressors of generations past. Ironic, no?

As for what is acceptable as a game, there are some limits because of the interactivity of a game (as opposed to the storytelling style of a movie or book). Portraying a rape, a racist crime (American History X comes to mind) or even pedophilia (ala many episodes of SVU) can be done in tv/movies/books because it requires no willingness of the person playing to do it, if that makes sense.

In a game, you actually have to make your character do these things, which is why there needs to be some limits. Putting the gamer in the shoes of a rapist, for example, would be too far. Ironically, you can kill them as a hitman, but c'est la vie.

However, this is besides the point in re: to RE5. While the imagery may be disturbing and evocative, it is not intentionally racist. Trying to paint it as racist tells me a lot more about Kym than it does about the game.

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FunkyJ — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 23:45:12 -0000

Why is it only the Americans who've pointed this out?

I've not read anything from black Parisians, nor anything South Londoners, or South Africa, or from Aboriginal Australia.

Could it be that some people search for racism everywhere?

I've never read on any of these so-called "black" or anti-racism sites when racism in games comes up (and it does frequently) people jumping to the aid of the Arabs, when in nearly every single game they're portrayed as sinister, hairy, enemy fodder to be killed.

There's nothing about how whenever you hear a German voice, that character is ALWAYS a Nazi.

There's nothing about how every coward and or traitor in games will have a French accent.

In my mind that's more ignorant and hypocritical and racist than anything else I've read on these boards.

You're not about racism, you're about you.

You're being selfish and arrogant trying to put your simple world view onto all others and condemning them for it.

I would say "typically American" but then again, that's racist.

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Sir Cedric — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:57:41 -0000

“Featuring eyes that shine with a hybrid of madness and lucidity, the townsfolk don’t appear to be along the lines of the rotting, shambling undead found in earlier Resident Evils. The emphasis on the next generation of the not-zombies’ mental clarity is stressed by villagers rallying around an apparent leader speaking to the masses through a megaphone.”
http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

“Once on the scene, Chris encounters a new form of enemy. Takeuchi described the game’s enemies as something of human form that has intelligence. However, the foes are neither zombie nor ganado (in reference to the creatures from RE4).”
http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

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The Central Scrutinizer — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 12:36:58 -0000

Uhh, you truncated my post above, not sure what happened... my FULL comment for the record, includes reference to the statement above, then:

We all know that LOGIC has NO place within the confines of a discussion over racial disharmony.

AND...

9 out of 10 talking heads [including Ann Coulter & Bill O'Rielly] know that broad sweeping generalizations actually facilitate politically charged discourse!

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Guest — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:40:10 -0000

"Trying to talk about the sensitivities of race to a gaming demographic is extremely difficult. the majority of readers are young white males who are either too immature to have a clean conversation about it or too logical to draw accurate comparisons. what is worse is that some of the hateful comments… echo the reality of ignorance and hate they claim black people should get over."

White, young, female gamer here. It's not getting over racism that's being chanted over and over again, it's is (mostly) the following:

1) It's a trailer, not the game. It's extremely difficult to judge whether a game will ultimately be racist based on a small portion of it.

2) The game takes place in Africa (one assumes, although it could be Haiti), so naturally the population will be black.

3) If whites and Latin Americans can be shot, why not black people? I already know the answer to this, and it's because they're black (answer being a little more complicated than that, but I think it's understood that there's a history of nasty happenings).

4) RE5 is not trying to resemble the AIDs epidemic in Africa because as it is known, there have been many games previous to the upcoming one that use a similar (if not identical) means to spread zombification.

5) Like in other RE games, most likely the main dude is there to try and save as much of the population as he can. Is saving Africa a bad thing? I know the answer to this as well, and it's not, but it's objectionable for Africa needing to be saved from itself.

Out of pure curiosity, how would anyone feel if it was either the Irish or Native Americans being zombies instead?

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c0dec — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:59:20 -0000

i am african, i am a gamer, heck i work in the games industry. i find sokari's post rather ignorant. yet, based on history, i can understand how touchy this topic can be (especially for africans).

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Xantar — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:01:09 -0000

#44

Why should my "conclusion" side with anyone in particular? My whole point is that polarizing people and making them take sides against each other is exactly what we don't want to happen in a conversation about race. It accomplishes nothing except to get people mad at each other.

I wasn't offended by the trailer to Resident Evil 5. I can understand where some people would find its imagery troublesome, but I cannot pretend to be disturbed by it. That would just be hypocritical. And moreover, the distinction I was trying to make in the end is that just because somebody got offended doesn't mean the trailer or the videogame is racist. The two are entirely different things, and all too often, I feel that people conflate these two ideas when talking about racism as if to say, "Because it offended me for reasons of race, it must be racist." That just doesn't work.

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guest — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:17:08 -0000

Xantar, it seems your conclusion is blurry and does not side with any. It's like you are just practising your writing skills.
@ BlackLooks, have you even bothered to read all the points of the intellectual defenses? I am very interested in a thorough response, perhaps you should make a new page for that instead of making the excuse that you can't because Kym's page is clogged by trollers?